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Side-snap kick: another Shotoism.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:45 am
by HanshiClayton
The side-snap kick (yoko geri keage) is a well-known Shotoism. We do the side-snap kick at several places in several kata, but other styles all do a front-snap kick instead. There is no doubt that their way is the original: our kata were changed.

Why? The side-snap kick can be used for a few applications, but it isn't all that practical. What was really going on?

I have a theory, and it is the only one I have encountered to explain this change. See what you think.

Historical fighters kept their feet on (or very near) the ground, with their knees turned in to close the groin and protect both the knees and the testicles.

Sport karate outlawed kicks below the waist. This led to the high kicks that bloomed suddenly in the 1930s.

The side-snap kick is the practical counter to the new high kicks. You opponent wheels a roundhouse kick to your head. You lean away and side-snap kick his testicles. It is lightning fast and deadly, and is the only practical application of side-snap I have been able to find.

Or it could just be that side-snap kicks were flashier and showier than front-snap kicks, so Funakoshi made the substitution. There were many such substitutions during the period when katas were transformed from textbooks into dances.

But however it came about, the appearance of side-snap kick in our kata is a corruption of the original technique. When you demonstrate kata applications, show people the front-snap kick instead.

Re: Side-snap kick: another Shotoism.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:17 am
by HanshiClayton
May be there was some value to doing techniques a gazillion time over?


There is no point in practicing something a gazillion times if it is worthless to begin with. There are so many worthwhile things to practice! Life i short, and hips wear out. Invest them wisely.

I am reminded of a conversation I had with Justin Butler, Tom Frobel, and Paul Lopresti. We had just heard the views of a sensei with 40 years experience, whose grasp of Shotokan was shallow and superficial. I think it was Justin who posed the question: "Was that 40 years of experience, or one year of experience repeated 40 times?"

Who says the change is a corruption? If you regard Matsumura and Itosu as the authors of our kind of karate, then people who make changes in Shuri katas are corrupting the work of the masters. The side-snap kick is found only in Shotokan (and its derivatives). All other Okinawan styles use the front-snap kick in its place. That was the original technique, and the new kick is therefore a corruption.

I wish I could find a convincing reason why Funakoshi made that change, but there is nothing to go on. Not a rumor, not a shred.